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« Reply #150 on: February 26, 2008, 11:29:39 PM »
I really wish the 'rss' link on that site actually worked.

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« Reply #151 on: March 22, 2008, 09:24:02 PM »
Two more God mode vids w/ Palm, including the best ST2 vid yet:

http://b-board.rdy.jp/torrent/details.php?info_hash=df8863d484127e4251e62f24dec100995c2c34ce

The ST 1 vid is 440mil (inclusive of the boss fight and end bonus), while the ST2 vid is 850mil (exclusive of the boss fight and end bonus!).
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« Reply #152 on: March 23, 2008, 07:17:59 AM »
Very impressive.

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« Reply #153 on: March 31, 2008, 01:35:58 PM »
A Japanese dude is playing God mode in double play:

http://moemoebob.blog98.fc2.com/

His best so far is up to the ST5 boss with 3.4bil on the 1P side (reco) and 3.5bil on the 2p side (Palm). Impressive stuff!
That page even includes pics of his various hand placements.
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« Reply #155 on: April 07, 2008, 04:51:39 AM »
A very nice Run;)
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« Reply #156 on: April 12, 2008, 03:00:38 PM »
Stage 3 Maniac mode Palm vid by SIN:

http://sinmoon.sakuraweb.com/movie.html

It's the 4th movie from the top of the page (it says "NEW" to the left of it).
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« Reply #157 on: April 12, 2008, 06:30:07 PM »
Random painfully off topic question: Does Sin have any section on his page about what he uses for vid capture?

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« Reply #158 on: April 12, 2008, 11:49:33 PM »
From tv I used a dvd record to catch vid from a supergun and it works very weel...
From Egret or other cab you can capture vid using a dvd-rec but you have to buy this specific converter

http://www.micomsoft.co.jp/img/xav-2s_z02.jpg

This some page that explain how to capture vid from a jamma system and the correct way to connect the jamma converter...



I used it from a egret2 and it works good
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« Reply #159 on: April 13, 2008, 04:55:13 AM »
I use the RGB to tv too.Very easy to build.
You can found it at yaton6262 from ebay.

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« Reply #160 on: April 13, 2008, 05:01:35 AM »
Before this goes completely off the rails: I was specifically asking if SIN mentions what he uses; I don't need a general 'here's how you capture from jamma' type response. I've already got that stuff well in hand.

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« Reply #161 on: April 17, 2008, 05:13:03 AM »
Another Maniac mode run on Nicovideo! This time it's a 1.07bil run with Reco.:righton:

ST1:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2999857

ST2:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2999956

Ends with ~380mil

ST3:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3000051

Ends with ~630mil

ST4:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3000126

Ends with ~775mil

ST5:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3000237

Really, really impressive run. Some really great scoring tricks in there I've never seen before (like on the last phase of the ST3 boss - brilliant!)
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« Reply #162 on: April 21, 2008, 05:14:43 AM »
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I use the RGB to tv too.Very easy to build.
You can found it at yaton6262 from ebay.
[url]http://www.enregistrersous.com/images2/vignettes_images/159278128120080413104836.jpg[/url]
i use that same thing to capture video from my cab, but mine don't have any sound cables connected to it..
could you please tell me how yours are connected (maybe take a closeup picture of them), and what cables you used?

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« Reply #163 on: April 21, 2008, 06:09:18 AM »
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I use the RGB to tv too.Very easy to build.
You can found it at yaton6262 from ebay.
[url]http://www.enregistrersous.com/images2/vignettes_images/159278128120080413104836.jpg[/url]
i use that same thing to capture video from my cab, but mine don't have any sound cables connected to it..
could you please tell me how yours are connected (maybe take a closeup picture of them), and what cables you used?
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« Reply #164 on: April 30, 2008, 10:45:24 PM »
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It should be noted many prefer the original 1.5 boss fights to BL's "accelerated" fights.
Mmmm indeed. I just took a look at an original mode run for BL and thought that the speed increase looks like it's definately not for me. I mean it looks great still but I was considering selling 1.5 to get BL before I saw this which is not happening now.

Of course I'm deciding based on a video :oops: so how do the rest of you who have actually PLAYED both versions feel about the two now that you've had a while to aclimatise to them?

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« Reply #165 on: July 01, 2008, 07:15:28 AM »
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so how do the rest of you who have actually PLAYED both versions feel about the two now that you've had a while to aclimatise to them?
After playing both for a long time here are my thoughts.

Original mode:
Black Label is probably better here for scoring in the long run, due to the addition of the gem leaching feature. However, you have to really like (and be good at dodging) ridiculously fast bullets. Personally, I prefer ver 1.5's original mode right now.

Maniac mode:
Both are great, and I think they are the best modes on each PCB, but ver 1.5's maniac is the better game.

Ultra/God modes:
This is tough. I think Ultra is more thrilling to score and advance in, but its difficulty is a bit too obscene, thus fewer people will really enjoy playing it (and probably no one will 1CC it). God mode feels like Maniac mode with more bullets, a bigger fancier multiplier, and more slowdown, and it's not terribly difficult to 1CC (it's only slightly harder than ver 1.5's maniac mode). The perfect mode would have been Ultra with the shot power of the characters in Black Label.

Overall, if you can only buy one, I'd say get ver 1.5. If you really like ver 1.5, then you should get Black Label as well. However, if you just want a lower 1CC difficulty in all 3 modes, then you'll like Black Label better, and should go for that one.

It would be good to get some opinions from others who have played both games. :)
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« Reply #166 on: July 01, 2008, 11:27:15 AM »
I still hate Maniac in Black Label (I need to watch the SIN videos, I admit) and really haven't given Original a fair chance, but I like God Mode heaps more than Maniac 1.5 (the only real mode I play).  In fact, I bought 1.5 recently and just couldn't get into it.  Maybe again one day, but for now, I'll let it go.

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« Reply #167 on: July 01, 2008, 12:53:55 PM »
I'm always confused at the different versions of Mushi Futari. So is there the original run of Futari, Futari 1.5, and Black Label?

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« Reply #168 on: July 01, 2008, 03:30:10 PM »
...and red label :lol:  although they were onlt given out as prizes after a score competition

whatever happened to the days when cave could get it right on the first try :/

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« Reply #169 on: July 01, 2008, 05:27:17 PM »
uh red label?
So it was the same like DDP Campaign Version?

What's been changed in this one, then?

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« Reply #170 on: July 01, 2008, 06:30:13 PM »
yeah, ISO and ABI (futari black label WR) have one, as well as someone else i'm forgetting.
basically, i think it had a ketsui-type addition to the scoring system, so you wanted to be in close proximity to the enemies.

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« Reply #171 on: July 01, 2008, 06:35:37 PM »
Yeah, they also put this element into Black Label.
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« Reply #172 on: July 01, 2008, 08:11:02 PM »
Oddly enough, none of the 3 PCBs have popped up anywhere around town.  The only tweaks were to Original mode, which is worth noting.  The scores (in Original) were 600+ million if memory serves.

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« Reply #173 on: July 02, 2008, 02:07:53 PM »
Cave should just go to ver. 2.0 and include elements from 1.5 AND BL.

Just a thought.

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« Reply #174 on: July 02, 2008, 02:43:46 PM »
the only thing im missing from BL is Ultra.. i find its better in all the other departments and God mode is very much playable even for us noobs. (ive had both versions aswell)

Ultra is the most ridiculous shit ive ever played, good fun tho in a masochistic ballbusting way...

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« Reply #175 on: July 02, 2008, 02:54:26 PM »
my problem with ultra is there isn't enough slowdown on stage 1.  credit-feeding through it, stage 2 feels easier to me than stage 1 :/

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« Reply #176 on: July 02, 2008, 05:21:33 PM »
One thing I really hate about God mode is the super jerky slowdown (slows down really bad then randomly speeds up super fast again), it's really worse than PS2 Mushi in some parts. It makes the game feel really choppy, and leads to a lot of cheap deaths. Another annoying part of the game is when you trigger a large multiplier and the on screen display AND your character sprite totally disappear for a second or two. I don't mind the OSD, but not being able to see my sprite really sucks and can once again lead to cheap deaths.

Overall Black Label is a much faster-paced game than 1.5. The characters move faster, the boss fights are sped up, and the game is really designed around the idea of getting as close to enemies as possible in all 3 modes, for maximum score. You're also really penalized for bombing (both in the stages and for your end bonus), so if you like to bomb, BL probably isn't for you.
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« Reply #177 on: July 02, 2008, 07:08:45 PM »
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it's really worse than PS2 Mushi in some parts.
YOu need to time it out so you're holding your laser through the jerky parts.  Stupid, but it smooths them out, and becomes part of the strategy.

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« Reply #178 on: July 02, 2008, 07:11:46 PM »
Yeah, I know. But if I want to switch to the shot to suck in some gems, or let go of the laser or shot to wait for a pattern to end (or get more bullets on the screen), the speed is all fucked up. So it's troublesome when you're going for score. Truth be told the same problem is in BL's Original mode when you have the rank jacked up. It pops up a few times on some boss fights in Maniac mode, but it's not too bad there.
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« Reply #179 on: July 03, 2008, 04:16:11 PM »
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One thing I really hate about God mode is the super jerky slowdown (slows down really bad then randomly speeds up super fast again), it's really worse than PS2 Mushi in some parts.
That is the main reason why I stopped with the God mode.  Its still fun, but I didn't have enough patience to stick it out.